Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

Ray Plzak (private),

Can you give the email addresses of the AfriNIC, AfNOG and SANOG
leaders? I'd like to write to them explicitly about this. It would
be good to get them more involved in the IETF.

Thanks

    Brian

Brian E Carpenter wrote:

Ray,

I think our goal is to not lose essential participants from the IETF due to 
clashes. In fact that's why we want to schedule
several years out, so as to make it easier for many other organizations to do 
their scheduling. If we do that, it's each

organization's choice whether or not they avoid IETF weeks. (This week, for example, ITU-T NGN chose to schedule two majormeetings in other cities.)


I don't think it's discriminatory to put the NICs and NOGs that don't seem to 
have a large overlap with IETF participants in
the second category. It's just a matter of practicality, given that optimal 
scheduling is a fundamentally imsoluble problem
anyway. I'd be delighted to see growth in African participation in the IETF 
(the spreadsheet shows two people from Africa
pre-registered this week).

Brian

Ray Plzak wrote:

Why should AfriNIC be considered any less of an RIR than the other APNIC, ARIN, 
LACNIC, or RIPE NCC(meeting is at RIPE
meeting)? Why should AFNOG be considered any less of an operator's forum than 
NANOG or EOF(meeting is at RIPE meeting)? We
are talking about an entire continent. It seems to me in this case that the 
priority should be equality of treatment based
on the function being performed for a region and not any other perceived reason 
for inequity. Or doesn't the IETF care
about the Internet in the developing regions of the world?

Ray

-----Original Message----- From: Joel Jaeggli 
[mailto:joelja(_at_)darkwing(_dot_)uoregon(_dot_)edu] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 
2006 1:53 AM
 To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org Subject: Re: Proposed 
2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

yOn Fri, 24 Mar 2006, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

Hi Ray,

I know is difficult already to manage to avoid clashes, but I think is unfair 
and discriminatory to have all the RIRs
and *NOGs in the MUST NOT list, but AfriNIC, AfNOG and SANOG in the other list.



having attended two of three I would simply observe that the overlap between 
the two communites is a little lower. also.
having attended every afnog meeting, it hasn't yet clashed with the ietf. You 
have to have some priorities.

Anticipating for so many years is good enough to allow all those organizations 
to chat together and make sure the there
is not a clash,

not

just in the exact dates, but allowing a few days in between (if they are hosted 
in different places of the world) to
allow traveling among them, which has not been the case up to now all the time.

Regards, Jordi
De: Ray Pelletier <rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org> Responder a: <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> Fecha: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:41:48 -0500Para: "ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> Asunto: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates
The IETF is proposing dates for its meetings being held 2008 through 2010. Those dates can be found athttp://www.ietf.org/meetings/future_meetings0810.html
The dates will be evaluated and selected to meet the IETF's standards 
development objectives, while avoiding
conflicts with SDOs and other organizations to the extent possible.  Those 
organizations can be found on the Clash
List from the same url.

Comments regarding these dates should be addressed to the IAD at 
iad(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org(_dot_)

It is anticipated that an official IETF Meeting Calendar for 2008 -

will be formally adopted on April 20, 2006 by the IAOC.

Regards Ray Pelletier IAD
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