Geoff, things were indeed different then, as long distance
bandwidth costs were a serious concern. That has changed. I think
the fact that content providers who are paid for that content
don't (in effect) pay for the congestion that they cause hasn't
changed. But mainly I was interested to see PHB making arguments
quite close to the ones I made ten years ago.
Brian
Geoff Huston wrote:
To quote from the Carpenter draft:...
"One approach to resolving the current crisis in Internet
performance is to institute an efficient system of
inter-carrier settlements."
Progress is often hard when you are heading in off in the weeds.
Try http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2005-01/interconn.html as an
alternative view of the ISP settlement world.
regards,
Geoff
At 12:12 PM 25/03/2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
I know I'm going to regret saying this, but we haven't made much progress
in ten years.
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-carpenter-metrics-00.txt
I got a lot of interest in that draft, none of which came from
ISPs...
Brian
Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
I think that people need to consider that maybe there might be
advantages to
non-flat rate, non-consumer pays charging models.
I don't expect the attempted shakedown of Google to work and there are
certainly tactics that they could use to preclude any desire on the
part of
the carriers to do any such thing.
A much more interesting case would be delivery of video on demand.
This is
surely what the proponents of the sender pays scheme are really thinking
about.
If I am going to send a copy of a $200 million action movie to a
viewer I am
going to expect to be paid for that. The viewer is going to expect a
high
quality viewing experience. The problem is that the bandwidth they
subscribe
to for Web browsing purposes may not be great enough to support that
viewing
experience.
If I am charging $8 for a movie I might well be willing to pay $0.50
to the
carrier as a distribution fee in exchange for access to high bandwith
pipe
for an interval.
The point here is that higher bandwidth costs more to provide. If the
bandwidth is provided to every subscriber all the time the costs are
much
greater than providing the ultra-high speed to a small pool of
subscribers
who need it for a limited time and purpose. If the high bandwidth is
added
to the general pool then it will be diluted by contention and the folk
running file sharing &ct.
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