Dear Jeffrey;
I would tend to disagree.
The IETF is mostly a volunteer effort. Unless the volunteers have
secret time machines in
their basements (I wonder about the IESG...), their time is limited.
Time spent on one thing is not available for another.
Also, as the IETF is not entirely a volunteer effort, it has a
budget, the current version of
which is here :
http://koi.uoregon.edu/~iaoc/docs/IETF-Budget-FY06-02-16-06.pdf
You will notice $ 100 K USD is going in 2006 to "Tools." (Not enough,
IMHO, and this is
likely to increase in the future.) This money is
largely going to maintain the tools that the volunteers make. Now, I
am not sure
whether or not xml2rfc is currently being supported by this, but if it
isn't, it will be.
I feel fairly sure that Yaakov was not trying to denigrate the tools
team in any way,
just to point out the choices made will impact the way resources are
spent, and in that
I think he is correct.
Regards
Marshall Eubanks
On Jun 19, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote:
On Monday, June 19, 2006 10:05:30 AM +0200 Yaakov Stein
<yaakov_s(_at_)rad(_dot_)com> wrote:
And that's one of the reasons why volunteers maintain xml2rfc (both
the format itself and various implementations).
And here is precisely where we are expending efforts.
I too enjoy coding, but why are we recreating for the XML2RFC
environment
mechanisms that exist in available tools?
"We" aren't expending any effort. The IETF has not spent any
resources on defining the xml2rfc grammar or implementing tools
that operate on it. We haven't formed a working group, spent any
meeting time, or done anything to suggest that people are required
to use it.
A few volunteers developed a language and some tools, not in an
effort to define a standard source format, but because they wanted
to make life easier for themselves as document authors. They were
kind enough to share their tools with the community, and other
people started using them, and contributing to their maintenance
and development. I find those tools to be quite useful, as do many
other people. Please stop suggesting that these people are somehow
wasting "our" time with their efforts.
-- Jeffrey T. Hutzelman (N3NHS) <jhutz+(_at_)cmu(_dot_)edu>
Sr. Research Systems Programmer
School of Computer Science - Research Computing Facility
Carnegie Mellon University - Pittsburgh, PA
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