I definitively support the view that IETF should reach larger audiences of
participants and therefore target regions in a balanced manner not based on the
% of participants. Many do not participate because their travel challenges are
almost never addressed by IETF. These statistics are skewed by the current bias
and that is in fact the cusp of the issue.
Organizing events in such regions turned out in my experience to bring even
more deeply involved and expert participants that in IETF traditional areas of
focus.
Many regions offer cheaper facilities with excellent (dare I say better)
services and business infrastructure. Travel pain should be equitably
distributed. Note that while further away for some of us, travel cost for the
participants can often turn out significantly lower in locations not typically
targeted by IETF. I can definitively provide some pointers based on lessons
from organizing or participating to standard events for other organizations.
We should strive at balanced amount of meetings in all the regions without
preferences. This is what being a global organization is about...
Stephane
PS Jordi, in your list, I think you should also include Asia (beyond
Japan/South Korea).
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From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:joelja(_at_)uoregon(_dot_)edu]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:54 AM
To: jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Meetings in other regions
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
There are two issues:
1) Cost. IETF has limited resources, so unless each of us want to pay
more and more for the registration fees or we are able to compensate
the cost with more sponsors (which is every day more difficult), we
need to look for cheaper locations.
2) Is un fair that the main driver is only looking at where more
people comes from (this is fortunately changing anyway, and thus will
less and less easy to match). Even worst if that's a country with
doesn't allow everyone to come in.
So where is this mythical low cost easy to travel to country within easy reach
of an untapped resource of potential ietf participants?
Once we've located it, it should be easy for the IAD to book us a hotel on the
dates we've fixed in stone 2 years in advance...
Regards,
Jordi
De: Scott W Brim <swb(_at_)employees(_dot_)org>
Organización: Cisco Systems, Inc.
Responder a: <ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Fecha: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:14:34 -0400
Para: Fred Baker <fred(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
CC: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, <dassa(_at_)dhs(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: Meetings in other regions
On 07/14/2006 10:01 AM, Fred Baker allegedly wrote:
Once upon a time,
the guideline I followed was that about 1/6 of the IETF was from
Europe, a smattering was from elsewhere, and the lion's share was
from the US, so I scheduled a meeting every other year in Europe,
the odd one in random places, and the lion's share in the US. Those
statistics are essentially meaningless now.
Why are they meaningless? The IETF should overwhelmingly meet where
the participants are, wherever that might be. I still like your
algorithm.
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