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Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 05:44:34
Starting from Europe, San Diego seems to be no harder to reach
than any other major US city. The SPF route from Geneva
has two hops (e.g. via EWR or JFK).

I agree that major hub airports are a little easier to reach,
but maybe that's why we can get meeting space more easily
in non-hub cities?

    Brian

Burger, Eric wrote:
I would offer that it is easier for me to get to London, Paris, or
Frankfurt from New Hampshire than it is to get to San Diego.  LAX is
marginally better.

Chicago, Boston, New York, Toronto, Atlanta, and Las Vegas (!) are my
easy, one-hop cities.  That said, it was fun driving to Montreal :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme(_at_)multicasttech(_dot_)com] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:45 AM
To: <Pasi(_dot_)Eronen(_at_)nokia(_dot_)com>
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Meetings in other regions

Hello;

On Jul 17, 2006, at 8:21 AM, <Pasi(_dot_)Eronen(_at_)nokia(_dot_)com> <Pasi(_dot_)Eronen(_at_)nokia(_dot_)com> wrote:


John C Klensin wrote:


It also means such things as:

   * picking places within those countries or regions that have
   good airports with easy (and multiple) international
   connections.  Even San Diego is a little marginal in that
   regard.  Based on experience in the last year or so, I'd
   suggest that Cape Town and Marrakech (suggested in another
   posting) should be utterly disqualified (although J-berg and
   Casablanca are more plausible on this dimension).

Some data about San Diego: Today, the flight information page on San
Diego "International" Airport web site shows a couple of flights
to/from Mexico and a couple to/from Canada -- all the others are
within US.

When meeting in North America, I would strongly prefer cities that
have several direct flight connections from both Europe and Asia.
Of the recent IETF meeting places, San Diego is the only one that
clearly fails this criteria... so why are we going there again?



Even direct flights within the US can be hard to find.

Depending on where you are coming from, and when you purchase your tickets,
you may find it faster / cheaper / better
to fly to LAX or Long Beach and drive down to San Diego. (LAX <-> San Diego is ~ 200 km, and LAX is basically on the San Diego Freeway.) I did this for the one San Diego IETF.

If you do that, be aware that there is a permanent immigration checkpoint on the
San Diego freeway Northbound, which can cause backups returning.

Regards
Marshall



Best regards,
Pasi

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