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RE: NATs as firewalls

2007-03-10 07:04:42
The FCC digital TV guideline is a bad example. There is no credibility in a 
plan that says that the govt. is going to cut off their primary means of 
outreach to voters. 

The networks know that and are acting accordingly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Staff [mailto:nick(_dot_)staff(_at_)comcast(_dot_)net] 
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:16 PM
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: NATs as firewalls

From: David Morris [mailto:dwm(_at_)xpasc(_dot_)com] On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, 
Nick 
Staff wrote:

I think the thing that would help IPv6 the most would be 
the setting
of a
hard date when no new IPv4 addresses would be issued.  This would
make it
real for everyone and ignite the IPv6/IPv4 gateway market 
(I think).
Not to
mention we'd never have to have another debate over when IPv4 was
going to
run out which might be benefit enough in itself  ;)

What a lawsuit mess that would be ... artificial limits would never 
work.

I think the US FCC Digital Broadcast Deadline is a good 
example - though more drastic than I was suggesting.

I think artificial limits are inevitable unless the intention 
is to support
IPv4 until there's no one left in the world who wants to use 
it (and even
that is an artificial limit).   I also don't understand what 
is gained by a
sliding doomsday other than procrastination, avoidance, and a 
neutered stimulus.  I mean if IPv4 addresses are going to run 
out wouldn't it be better to know exactly when?  In my 
opinion you make it real if you give it a date but until then 
it's like saying "smoking may cause cancer".  If any smoker 
knew for a fact that the next drag on a cigarette would give 
them cancer they'd never smoke again.  If a network manager 
knew that in 7 years all new address space would be IPv6 it 
would become a consideration from that point forward.  In my opinion.

Nick 


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