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Re: Representation of end-users at the IETF (Was: mini-cores (was Re: ULA-C)

2007-09-19 17:18:03

I think this largely depends on what is defined as an "end-user". The 
reason the ALAC is failure is that there is a complete mismatch 
between the stuff ICANN does and what these "end users" THINK ICANN 
does or should be doing. 

The ALAC members are largely made up of "civil society" or "political 
science" folks with an agenda and a strong passion for international
travel -- and most of all a desire to be HEARD, no matter how 
irrelevant their topic is.

The only thing I could suggest that would make sense in the case of 
the IETF would be an improved linkage to the OPERATOR community (e.g. 
NANOG), but I don't really think the IETF wants or needs to hear from
my father, born in 1919, even if he is indeed an Internet "end-user".

Ole

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Paul Hoffman wrote:

Given that ICANN's ALAC is the example that has had the most effort put behind
it, and it is indeed a complete failure, why do you think the IETF would do
any better? Or, even if we did do better in the long run, that the huge amount
of effort it would take would not have been better spent on technical matters?

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium

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