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RE: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists

2008-04-14 10:25:46
Phill:

When IETF lists are housed somewhere other than ietf.org, they are 
supposed to include an archive recipient so that there is an archive 
available at ietf.org (perhaps in addition to the one kept at the 
place where the list is housed).

Russ



At 01:02 PM 4/14/2008, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
I would suggest that the IESG also think about hosting all IETF lists in
house in the future.

The main reason for this is legal, a list that is maintained by the IETF
is much more satisfactory in a patent dispute than one run by a third
party. Last thing we want is to have patent trolls dragging a third
party list maintainer into a dispute while they try to argue that the
list somehow does not count.

And yes, I am aware that the 'law', might be on our side here. The
problem is that it can cost a ridiculous amount of money to have a court
decide the most obvious and basic question you might imagine.


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Subject: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists

The following principles apply to spam control on IETF mailing lists:

* IETF mailing lists MUST provide spam control.
* Such spam control SHOULD track accepted practices used on
the Internet.
* IETF mailing lists MUST provide a mechanism for legitimate
technical participants to bypass moderation,
challenge-response, or other techniques that would interfere
with a prompt technical debate on the mailing list without
requiring such participants to receive list traffic.
* IETF mailing lists MUST provide a mechanism for legitimate
technical participants to determine if an attempt to post was
dropped as apparent spam.
* The Internet draft editor, RFC editor, IESG secretary, IETF
chair and IANA MUST be able to post to IETF mailing lists.
The relevant identity information for these roles will be
added to any white-list mechanism used by an IETF mailing list.
* There MUST be a mechanism to complain that a message was
inappropriately blocked.

The realization of these principles is expected to change over time.
List moderators, working group chairs and area directors are
expected to interpret these principles reasonably and within
the context of IETF policy and philosophy.

This supercedes a previous IESG statement on this topic:
http://www.ietf.org/IESG/STATEMENTS/mail-submit-policy.txt
That statement contains justification and implementation
advice that may be helpful to anyone applying these principles.

A separate IESG statement applies to moderation of IETF mailing lists:
http://www.ietf.org/IESG/STATEMENTS/moderated-lists.txt

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