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RE: Past LC comments on draft-ietf-geopriv-http-location-delivery-08

2008-08-06 09:32:53
Hi Hannes, Julian,

...which of course makes it obvious that the new URI scheme is
totally pointless.

We just recently updated our examples from the lower one to the upper
one. Martin Thomson might provide you more background on this issue
since he also told me to update other drafts ...

Interesting, looking forward to understand the reasons.

Martin, can you provide a bit of background here?
...

I'm impartial on the topic of URI schemes.  The URI scheme was added on request 
after IESG review.  There were concerns about the loss of contextual 
information relating to the URI when used in contexts outside the context of 
the Device-LIS exchange.

Assuming that the URI is necessary...  The reason to go with the full URI on 
the request line is to ensure that the server is able to distinguish between a 
held[s]: URI and a matching http[s]: URI.  Without this, the server potentially 
does not know the difference.

Without the absolute URI, there is the possibility that held: and http: URIs 
could be considered equivalent.  In fact, there would be no meaningful 
difference when it comes to the protocol exchange, as you rightly pointed out.  
(I'll note that this isn't the only difference that is important, and certainly 
wasn't a factor in the discussions that lead to the introduction of the new 
scheme.)

Using an absolute URI is not common practice in HTTP for anything other than 
requests to proxies.  However, RFC 2616 requires that servers understand and 
support absolute URIs (Sec. 5.1.2).  In my experience, this is a safe thing to 
assume; HTTP servers generally treat the URI sensibly.

Cheers,
Martin

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