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Re: several messages

2008-11-14 15:11:43
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:50 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com> 
wrote:


--On Friday, 14 November, 2008 13:51 -0500 Al Iverson
<aiverson(_at_)spamresource(_dot_)com> wrote:

...
This strikes me as unrelated to DNSBLs. Am I misunderstanding?
How is this DNSBL-specific?

Al, and others,

While many of us are less opposed to DNSBLs in principle

You misunderstand. Let's take a step back.

(1) If the system supporting the DNSBL is following the email
protocols and decides to reject the message or bounce it, rather
than, e.g., assigning a score and moving it into the
user-related mail store, it replies back to the IETF list
manager, not the original sender.

Let's reword that a bit.

(1) If the system supporting spam filtering is following the email
protocols and decides to reject the message or bounce it, rather
than, e.g., assigning a score and moving it into the
user-related mail store, it replies back to the IETF list
manager, not the original sender.

Again, how is this DNSBL-specific?

I'm not trying to fight about whether or not DNSBLs are awesome. I'm
asking clarification for your point, which I'm not understanding. I'm
seeing, for example, a statement that says "DNSBLs do X" when it seems
to actually say "non-delivery of mail actually works like *this*", and
I am unable to see the connection to DNSBLs.

Apologies for not being clearer.

Regards,
Al Iverson
-- 
Al Iverson on Spam and Deliverability, see http://www.spamresource.com
News, stats, info, and commentary on blacklists: http://www.dnsbl.com
My personal website: http://www.aliverson.com   --   Chicago, IL, USA
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