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RE: Public musing on the nature of IETF membership and employment status

2010-04-06 15:05:46

Perhaps that would stop all of these "LOOP MAIL DETECTED" messages I keep 
getting back from kisa.or.kr every time I post to this (particular) email list.
Anyone else getting those?

-hadriel


-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of
Dean Willis
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:58 PM

On Apr 6, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

On 6 apr 2010, at 18:16, Mark Atwood wrote:

Cisco, IBM, MCI, or Linden Lab are not a "members" of the IETF.  No
agency of the US government, or of any other government, is a
"member" of the IETF.  No university, non-profit, PIRG, PAC, or
other "concerned citizens group", is a "member" of the IETF.

Only individual people can be "members" of the IETF.  And
"membership" is mostly defined as "who shows up on the mailing
list" and "who shows up at the meetings".

True enough, but that's only one side of the equation. Cisco, IBM,
etc, etc as a rule don't send their people to the IETF to support
the greater Minneapolis area economy or other alturistic reasons:
they want their people to get stuff done at the IETF. As such, an
IETF participant's affiliations have relevance, and should be clear
to all.

Considering that, it wouldn't be the worst idea to have everyone
post mailing list messages from an employee email address. Then
again, I don't need that kind of spam exposure on even more email
addresses...

And considering the crap that many companies use for email servers,
their message-deletion policies and so on, I expect there are a lot of
people who wouldn't want that.

Flip side: I could see the IETF requiring all participants use
ietf.org email addresses hosted on ietf.org servers with ietf.org-
issued authentication/signature certificates, and quite possibly (with
some exceptions) restricted delivery to/from non-IETF addresses.

--
Dean

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