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RE: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent

2010-09-06 00:17:10

Hi,

I assume Hawaii has the same visa issues as the rest of US...

Regards,

Christer
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On 
Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
Sent: 6. syyskuuta 2010 1:39
To: Glen Zorn
Cc: Randall Gellens; IETF-Discussion list; Hadriel Kaplan
Subject: Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent

I've been to several conferences at the Hilton Hawaiian 
Village in Waikiki. Both the hotel and the attached 
convention center are large enough to host several IETFs 
simultaneously.

Cheers,
Andy

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Glen Zorn <gwz(_at_)net-zen(_dot_)net> 
wrote:
Hadriel Kaplan [mailto://HKaplan(_at_)acmepacket(_dot_)com] writes:

...


Why Kauai?  You list detailed reasons why Hawaii is logical and 
solves for many of the problems, but you don't say why 
this island.

Because it's the nicest, obviously. :)

I strongly disagree: the leeward coast of Maui (in 
particular, Kihei &
south) is far better.  Kauai is way too rainy...




  We can even rotate islands if people get bored.

Well, there are extensive conference facilities on Oahu, the Big 
Island, Maui, and Kauai.  I have no information as to if 
they would 
work for a group of our size and with our need for 
breakout rooms.

I used to attend IEEE 802 and they met in Kauai (Grand Hyatt in 
Poipu) every few years, but they were a smaller group.  
There aren't 
many restaurants nearby, but I certainly don't remember 
anyone ever 
complaining about it. ;)

3GPP2 used to (still does?) meet in Wailea every December.  
Although 
that is also a much smaller group than the IETF, the hotels 
dwarfed it 
so it might be possible to find a reasonable venue for the IETF.  
However, I think that this is just an idle fantasy: the 
IETF has too 
much moral fiber to meet someplace that might actually be fun ;-).


-hadriel
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