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RE: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
2010-11-16 09:59:42
Hi Jordi.
IESG members are nearly full-time. Someone is paying them a salary to be
full-time ADs, and that presumably includes travel and registration.
NOC people also have a day job, and while I can get my employer to pay my way
to the IETF because I'm working on this or that document, and participating in
such-and-such working group, I don't think they would pay for an extra few days
for me to run the network at a meeting. So the NOC people really need it.
Yoav
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Subject: Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
I just realized something ...
Note that I'm not saying that volunteer NOC is not good, but, if they are
waived from the registration fee ... Why IESG members not ?
Is that we valuate less the effort of the IESG members, which is across all
the time in the year, than NOC that is may be 6-7 weeks per year (assuming 2
weeks or so needed per meeting) ?
I think we really need to have a balance on this.
Regards,
Jordi
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
Reply-To: <jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 06:38:16 +0800
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Cc: "iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
I'm still not convinced.
If you accept to be waived, you should accept that the waiver is made
public. It is not a matter of privacy, you're not forced to.
Moreover, and this needs to be answered, or we have a problem. What is the
RFC that allows this waiver ?
Regards,
Jordi
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme(_at_)americafree(_dot_)tv>
Reply-To: <tme(_at_)americafree(_dot_)tv>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:24:49 -0500
To: Yoav Nir <ynir(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com>
Cc: "iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <iaoc(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, IETF discussion
list <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
"jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es"
<jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
Subject: Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:08 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:36 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
Hi Henk,
I don't agree. If there is people "essential" to the meeting but can't pay,
as we all pay for that, we have the right to know.
I disagree with that. There is a privacy issue here. If x can't pay his way,
and needs a comp ticket, it's enough that the IETF chair knows about this.
It's not our right to know of their financial situation.
+1
Marshall
This is an open organization right ? I will be VERY concerned if we don't
have this information being made public immediately. It sounds really
really
strange to me.
You pay for everything the Spanish government does, which, I assume,
includes
some kinds of welfare like unemployment benefits. You don't get a list of
all
people who get these benefits, do you?
Is it documented in any RFC ?
Moreover, if I'm in between jobs, or need a new job, or whatever, I think
is
good for me that others know, in case I can get some new offers.
People look for jobs in various ways at their discretion. Being from Spain,
there are only 6 more of your countrymen at the Beijing meeting. How many
relevant job offers would you get?
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