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Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal

2011-06-30 05:41:55
Hi, Mark (and Jari),

Thanks so much for your clarification! All my questions/comments have
been addressed.

Thanks,
Fernando




On 06/30/2011 06:57 AM, Mark Townsley wrote:

I think the consensus we had in the past BoFs and discussion in and
around this topic can be summed up as stating that homenet
deliverables will:

- coexist with (existing) IPv4 protocols, devices, applications,
etc. - operate in a (future) IPv6-only home network in the absence of
IPv4 - be IP-agnostic whenever possible

In other words, anything we do for the IPv6 homenet cannot actively
break what's already running on IPv4. Also, trying to define what the
IPv4 home network should be has long reached a point of diminishing
returns given the effort in doing so coupled with our ability to
significantly affect what's already deployed. There's still hope we
can help direct IPv6, as such that is homenet's primary focus.
However, when we can define something that is needed for IPv6 in a
way that is also useful for IPv4 without making significant
concessions, we should go ahead and do so.

- Mark



On Jun 30, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Fernando Gont wrote:

My point was that, except for the mechanism for PD, I don't see a
substantial difference here that would e.g. prevent this from
being developed for IPv4 (in addition to IPv6). -- Yes, I know we
need to deploy IPv6... but I don't think you can expect people to
get rid of their *working* IPv4 devices... (i.e., not sure why
any of this functionality should be v6-only)

Chaining NAT boxes already work. I also feel that we shouldn't put
in a lot of work to develop IPv4 further, that focus should be put
on IPv6.

I think this deserves a problem statement that clearly describes
what we expect to be able to do (but currently can't), etc. And,
if this is meant to be v6-only, state why v4 is excluded --
unless we're happy to have people connect their IPv4-devices, and
see that they cannot communicate anymore.

IPv4 should be excluded because it's a dead end, and we all know
it. We're just disagreeing when it's going to die and how.

-- Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike(_at_)swm(_dot_)pp(_dot_)se 
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