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Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal

2011-06-30 10:23:50

I think the consensus we had in the past BoFs and discussion in and around this 
topic can be summed up as stating that homenet deliverables will:

- coexist with (existing) IPv4 protocols, devices, applications, etc.
- operate in a (future) IPv6-only home network in the absence of IPv4
- be IP-agnostic whenever possible

In other words, anything we do for the IPv6 homenet cannot actively break 
what's already running on IPv4. Also, trying to define what the IPv4 home 
network should be has long reached a point of diminishing returns given the 
effort in doing so coupled with our ability to significantly affect what's 
already deployed. There's still hope we can help direct IPv6, as such that is 
homenet's primary focus.  However, when we can define something that is needed 
for IPv6 in a way that is also useful for IPv4 without making significant 
concessions, we should go ahead and do so. 

- Mark



On Jun 30, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Fernando Gont wrote:

My point was that, except for the mechanism for PD, I don't see a 
substantial difference here that would e.g. prevent this from being 
developed for IPv4 (in addition to IPv6). -- Yes, I know we need to deploy 
IPv6... but I don't think you can expect people to get rid of their 
*working* IPv4 devices... (i.e., not sure why any of this functionality 
should be v6-only)

Chaining NAT boxes already work. I also feel that we shouldn't put in a lot 
of work to develop IPv4 further, that focus should be put on IPv6.

I think this deserves a problem statement that clearly describes what we 
expect to be able to do (but currently can't), etc. And, if this is meant to 
be v6-only, state why v4 is excluded -- unless we're happy to have people 
connect their IPv4-devices, and see that they cannot communicate anymore.

IPv4 should be excluded because it's a dead end, and we all know it. We're 
just disagreeing when it's going to die and how.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike(_at_)swm(_dot_)pp(_dot_)se
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