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Re: Last Call: <draft-yevstifeyev-ion-report-06.txt> (Report on the Experiment with IETF Operational Notes (IONs)) to Informational RFC

2011-07-16 18:20:21


--On Saturday, July 16, 2011 14:41 -0400 Barry Leiba
<barryleiba(_at_)computer(_dot_)org> wrote:

Barry,
...
So, if only to increase my understanding, why do you think
reviewing this type of document (presumably through multiple
cycles as we quibble about language, etc.) is worth a Last
Call and the community's time?

John, you've mis-addressed this.  It's Mykyta who wants to do
it ,not I.  I think it's at least as much a waste of time as
you do.  The only reason I reviewed it and commented on the
language at all was that Mykyta said Russ had agreed to
shepherd it.  Either it needs to be published as it is,
without further waste of time, or it needs to go away.

In case it isn't clear, I vote "go away" rather than wasting
even the amount of resources that would be required to publish
it substantially as is.  The community has to be able to say
"this isn't worth the energy" and establish consensus around
that.  

I suspect we agree about that; I'm just surprised and chagrined
that you, Harald, myself, and others are needing to spend energy
reading and understanding this and similar things before we can
reach that conclusion.

   john



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