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Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-08 03:25:53
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From: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
To: "t.petch" <daedulus(_at_)btconnect(_dot_)com>
Cc: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>; <joelja(_at_)bogus(_dot_)com>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:32 AM
On 7 October 2011 11:36, t.petch wrote:

No thousands of .gif to spend ages downloading, no Megabytes of XML
that take half an hour to process, no https that locks up the
workstation more often than not, no need for a user manual to
explain how to do what; just a simple, self-evident interface, as
simple as it could be but no simpler (a paragon of engineering
design) taking me to exactly what I needed, almost every time (no
irtf, but I learnt to live with that).

watersprings, you are sorely missed.
[...]

http://tools.ietf.org/html/DRAFTNAME works very well

E.g. <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database>

IMO it is brilliant:  It always lists all versions with relevant
links (including tracker and various diffs) in *simple* XHTML, no
thousands of GIFs, no https overhead, a minimal amount of CSS for
its minimalistic approach to show drafts as near to the TXT form
as possible (the colour-coded status gimmick is acceptable, e.g.,
it caused no visible trouble with a HTML 3.2 browser).


Frank

Yeeeee sss  ..... If that is what I wanted; but I don't:-)

I want an I-D and I know fairly accurately what it is called although my
reference might be to an out-of-date version, or perhaps to a version that is
yet to be adopted by a WG with a consequent name change.

The brilliance of watersprings was I could go click, click, click and be there,
with a list of close relatives, all on one page, NOTHING TO TYPE.  The curse of
WIMPS is having to move between mouse and keyboard.  All keyboard is a pain, I
can never remember when to use Ctl-Alt-back arrow etc.  All mouse is a dream,
and watersprings gave me that.

With the current flavour of the IETF web site, I usually go via charters - WG -
I-D list and then find 103 I-Ds in an order I cannot divine, give up and accept
that I will have to type in
d r a f t - i e t f - w g etc etc. Another waste of my time along with gif
download, xml processing etc oh, did I mention all the javascripts that try to
out think me and get in the way?  mutter mutter

I loved watersprings.

Tom Petch
(on a wet Saturday morning)




If that is still not yet minimalistic enough for you check out:
<URL:http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database>

That's plain text.  You can omit -nn.txt in DRAFTNAME for version
nn to get the latest plain text version.  Including IRTF drafts.

Sadly the IETF announce list still does not offer links for this
repo.  If somebody here has a simple "favlet" or "bookmarklet"
(= Javascript URL) to transform the announce list datatracker
locations into tools.ietf.org locations please share it.

@Joel:  There is only one rel="icon" PNG in the rfcmarkup HTML
for an I-D, size about 1KB.  Is your 46 KB observation about the
tools.ietf.org page with the search form?  If your browser can
handle OpenSearch description documents like most modern browsers
I could create an OSDD for you, with input DRAFTNAME as described
above and output = send corresponding HTTP GET to tools.ietf.org.

-Frank



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