Re: reading on small devices, was discouraged by .docx
2011-11-28 11:47:22
Hi,
Obviously, the key evolution is greater competition and market of display
devices, i.e. lack of a standard perhaps and patent restrictions which
promotes the propensity to just use HTML and HTML5 with OS file association
shell launching. This is especially the case since the 2006/2007 EOLAS
patents for embedded object rendering changed the industry landscape in this
area. Frivolous or not, the patents were reaffirmed (Microsoft lost) and
EOLAS has been very aggressive about it with all major end-user client
device vendors.
Of course, once upon a time, the devices were limited in their dimensions,
standards on rendering and most people had "PCs" where it wasn't an issue
for publishers of information. For text/ansi, the old punch card 80 or 132
columns carried on to all devices. Scan Line pitches for FAX machines,
Displays were well defined and I don't think it has changed even today, but
then again I am not an expert with it comes to needs of the Asian market.
What dimensions do they need for norminal viewing of iconic images good for
the human eye?
Personally, it is still too early to get all nuts about how documents should
be published with the moving target of small device and its changing display
rendering technologies. I also think it is unreasonle for people who are now
with smaller devices on a greater percentage of their time to mandate
changes to a world that is still using larger or normal standard display
devices. If these people have a problem reading on their iPAD or mobile
device, they should had realize it was not going to be always ergonomically
pleasant to them.
Sure, the purest can say - "Everyone should use a standard, multiversal (not
universal) META format and everyone should be using document creation and
viewing tools." But thats always the case when someone gets comfortable
within his own universe. He wants it to be everyone elses universe as well,
or more appropriately, he believes it is already is!
Just the other day, an old customer came out of the wood works and now
wanted his old printed manuals to be viewable via his iPAD, so he now
demanded a PDF we redo the manuals for PDF output. When told we long
migrated and converted the old Word Docs to HTML and CHM files, he said "My
iPAD doesn't support CHM." Go Figure.
In my view, we will never eliminate people who will always or mostly use
text based communications. Not everyone is going to use GUI document
creations all the time. For me, it is highly unproductive when over 99% of
my communications is in text. I don't need to add a PICTURE and when I do,
it is done on the basis that everyone else will be able read it - if they
wanted to But I am not going to waste time trying to limit or restrict
dimensions because there might be people who has using smaller devices.
Thats their problem.
My view.
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From: "Yaakov Stein" <yaakov_s(_at_)rad(_dot_)com>
To: "Christian Huitema" <huitema(_at_)microsoft(_dot_)com>; "Richard Shockey"
<richard(_at_)shockey(_dot_)us>; "'John Levine'" <johnl(_at_)iecc(_dot_)com>; <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Cc: <tytso(_at_)mit(_dot_)edu>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:02 AM
Subject: RE: reading on small devices, was discouraged by .docx
The time interval between ASCII text threads seems to be decreasing over
time.
Perhaps when half of the traffic on the discussion list is related to this
question
something will finally be done.
Y(J)S
-----Original Message-----
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Christian Huitema
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 08:00
To: Richard Shockey; 'John Levine'; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Cc: tytso(_at_)mit(_dot_)edu
Subject: RE: reading on small devices, was discouraged by .docx
Do we have an official web page listing the timings of the "ASCII text
RFC" discussions? It ought to tell us something about the state of the
IETF...
-- Christian Huitema
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