Maybe I am the worst person to respond here but I agree with Brian.
I've always had a problem with the large number of different document types.
My overall view is that essentially market forces decide how a document is
taken and implemented, and the IETF process has never had enough responsiveness
to follow that in a timely fashion that has any real meaning. This applies to
proposed standard --> draft standard --> standard, and it will not be different
here.
Changing something from experimental to proposed standard in a process that
will probably take 12 months will be unlikely change the number of people
implementing and deploying an RFC.
Regards
Keith
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Subject: Re: Proposed IESG Statement on the Conclusion of Experiments
On 2012-04-20 16:12, Stewart Bryant wrote:
On 20/04/2012 14:36, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
What about the idea of requiring new Experimental documents to include
text that indicates when the experiment is to be considered completed
absent new work on it? Essentially, the document declares a date by
which the experiment is considered concluded, and code points
automatically deprecated, and the document itself goes to Historic
status, unless some other document action updates the deadline or
moves the work to the Standards Track.
If you factor in the historic success rate that engineers typically have
in predicting s/w development schedules, I would expect that the overrun
rate on predicted end exp dates would be close to 100%, even after
several extensions.
Exactly. This whole discussion seems to be about over-engineering a
small corner of the IETF process that isn't a particular source
of practical problems anyway, afaik.
So, the standard question: what's the problem that needs solving here?
Brian