One of the points I discussed in NYC last week was also the role of media
and what is depicted in film, TV and so on wrt girls-women, a topic of the
Miss Representation initiative:
http://www.missrepresentation.org/
Monique
On 5/1/12 6:45 AM, "Mary Barnes"
<mary(_dot_)ietf(_dot_)barnes(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
The article clearly states that women leave for the two reasons you mentioned,
which are certainly the exact same things males deal with, but you missed a
few others that the article notes, specifically and directly quoted below:
"...lack of real or perceived opportunities for advancement, and uncivil work
environments where women were treated in condescending or patronizing manners.
Only 25 percent of the women who left engineering did so for family reasons."
Mary
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Yoav Nir <ynir(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com>
wrote:
On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:52 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
Here is an article that does a far better job of explaining the situation
than I did:
http://www.todaysengineer.org/2011/May/women-in-engineering.asp
The largest reason women leave engineering is due to the work environment
and perceived lack of support from colleagues.
Interesting, but I don't really get some of the distinctions they are making.
Women *are not* leaving engineering to spend time with their families, but
they *are* leaving engineering because of 60-hour weeks and having to work
weekends.
I'm also not sure that stereotype is still valid. It's the romantic image of
a technology start-up trying to get a product out before funding runs out,
but most engineers won't work in those. Most will work at established
companies or in corporate IT, and in those places, the 60-hour week is either
rare or non-existent. There may be other things that scare women away from
IT/engineering jobs, but there are plenty of those available that do not
require that type of having no life.
Yoav