On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Martin Rex wrote:
Doug Barton wrote:
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
Let me get this straight: for the sake of procedures that are clearly
designed to be hard to use,
While I think that 3777 probably errs on the side of too hard to use,
recalling someone from one of these positions _should_ be hard to do,
and should not be undertaken lightly.
There is a good reason why procedures for recalling someone from
a position in a decision-making body with elected members is much
harder than electing the person into that body.
Sometimes, members are elected by only a small majority over competitors,
and they even may have been "weak supporting" votes, and those may even
be known to each member. Now it happens that those decision bodies
have to occasionally make contentious or unpopular, but necessary
and hopefully rational and mostly unbiased decisions,
What you want to avoid is those members with "weak" votes to worry
about mainly pleasing one or a few very specific "voters" during
those decisions, that could otherwise have them recalled by just
those persons not voting for them again in the recall procedure.
All correct, except that the IAOC (and IAB, IESG) are not elected. Just as some
companies have staffing committees which make the decision on who to hire and
who to promote, the IETF has the NomCom. While they have the power to appoint
people to vacant positions, they don't have firing power, and have no bigger
say in a recall process than you or me.
There is a good reason to make it hard to unseat a president or prime minister.
There is a good reason to make it hard to unseat an IAOC member if the claim is
made that they're trying to get rid of him because he's voting against the
decisions favored by Russ or Bob. This is not the case here. He has simply
chosen a particularly strange way to resign.
If president Obama chose to hide in the presidential bedroom and not answer the
phone, Mr. Biden would be sworn in within hours, not three months.
Yoav