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Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-09 08:32:20
There is a direct contribution of US $2.2 million by the Internet
Society next year.  Is the plan to rely on Internet Society subsidies
or to fix the deficit?  One argument made was that the fees have not
been increased over the last years.  I'll point out that there hasn't
been significant increase in paid attendance over the years.  Either
the IETF is only relevant to the usual folks or else the meetings are
not made relevant enough for (new) people to attend.

I am newcomer and not able to attend because most of meeting in
America instead of Europe.


I am repeatedly struck by how many new people *do* attend.


I don't know how long do they remain, for me I am feeling disapointed.

According to Russ's slides [1] 195/1098 are newcomers. And just to labour
the
point, a newcomer is not a returnee after 10 years, but someone who has
never
attended before.

hope treated equal with all participants,


This number (around 10%) seems consistent over all meetings. So naively, we
should be growing our attendance by around 300 per year.


agree

That we are not reflects our inability to retain, not our inability to
attract
(assuming that we are not completely refreshing the IETF attendance every
three
or four years). Should not be rocket science to follow up with some
newcomers to
find out why they only attend once and never come back.


For me I still did n't attend but understand that many old
participants are biased and there seems no equal opportunity, people
don't always follow the IETF mission and procedure, they just follow
their ways as long there was no complain.

I call all newcomers to open a new WG and start complaining because we
have to discuss why we were disapointed of the IETF and IESG, and even
the Internet Society.

Please note that I will focus my volunteering work in complaining and
fixing the discourage I found so far.

AB