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Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-11 04:45:56
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Andrew Sullivan 
<ajs(_at_)anvilwalrusden(_dot_)com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 08:00:19PM -0500, Arturo Servin wrote:
    Hard times may come, some people will ask why the Internet standards
are just developed in some places and will challenge us.

And here I thought that the standards were developed on the list.

(For the record, I am not opposed at all to holding a meeting in Latin
America -- I'm personally in favour of it.  But we also don't hold
meetings in India or Myanmar, and for much the same reason: we have a
tiny minority of participants from those places, and given the funding
model the IETF can't afford to hold full-on meetings as a matter of
outreach.  There may be ways to fix that, and I understand the IAOC is
investigating options.  Note that the IETF is always looking for
sponsors for meetings!)

I don't know enough to comment about Myanmar but the argument for not
holding a meeting in India rings quite hollow. There has been a rising
number of participants from India (both from Indians living in India
and abroad). This is due to two reasons:
1. Internet connectivity and awareness becoming better. Remote
participation has become easier.
2. Better understanding of web technology and relation of standards to
them (examples HTTP/2.0, websockets)
3. Several American MNCs such as Cisco / Juniper setting up offices
and engineers from these organizations getting involved.

SIGcomm (http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2010/) and W3C
(http://wwwconference.org/www2011/) have both happened here in India
in Delhi and Hyderabad respectively. I know the participant profile
and numbers are different for IETF but it is not an insurmountable
mountain to climb.
As is usual, I am willing to help if the IAOC is looking at this part
of the world to hold a meeting.

-- Vinayak