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Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD

2013-03-06 08:38:01
Eric,

As far as I know, that's completely wrong. The IETF Chair, sometimes
known as the AD for the General Area, is selected by the nomcom and
confirmed by the IAB just like all other ADs. They are not elected
chair of the IESG by the IESG members.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Eric Gray 
<eric(_dot_)gray(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com> wrote:
John,

        I considered this before making my reply, especially in light of a 
number of recent
events with which I am intimately familiar.

        To become the Chair of the IESG involves a second level of selection 
that is much
more political.  You have to be selected - I believe - for the role by your 
peers on the IESG.
This then is a matter for the IESG, more than the NomCom, or the IETF as a 
whole.

        This is - I feel sure - one of the things that a NomCom has to 
consider in picking folks
for IESG membership: there needs to be at least one AD on the IESG that is 
both willing and
able to take on this role.

        But - let's face it - this should be obvious to any reasonably 
competent NomCom that
is having to replace an outgoing Chair.

        But it is most definitely NOT something that every AD has to be 
prepared to do...

--
Eric

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--On Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:16 +0000 Eric Gray 
<eric(_dot_)gray(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com> wrote:

...
      So far, it has not been any part of the normal duties of an  IESG
member or AD to hold press conferences, glad-handing with  the masses,
baby kissing, etc.
...

I can't speak to baby kissing but the above statement is true only if you 
exclude the IETF Chair from "IESG member or AD".
Perhaps we could change it if we really wanted to, but we should face the 
fact --and I hope that Nomcoms understand-- that the IETF Chair role has 
expanded to include a great deal of public representation of the IETF and, 
indeed, public politics.

    john