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RE: The Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility

2013-06-27 14:38:46
    > Because of that, weakening requirements for NomCom participation
    > greatly increases the probability that our culture will fracture, and
    > our mission statement lose meaning, before we have a chance to agree
    > on what they should become.  I supported the proposal to require a few
    > old-timers on every NomCom a few years ago.  I'm quite against the
    > idea of lowering requirements now.  I would only entrust the future of
    > the IETF to those who have enough experience and hard-earned wisdom to
    > make the difficult decisions that are required.  Those who participate
    > in the process but are not really deep in the culture are already
    > well-represented through the vehicles for contributing to the NomCom
    > process.

Just as long as you understand that you are influencing the diversity of the
nomcom itself.

The people involved will be older, work for bigger companies, and have a
tendancy to be white, north american, male, and not have small
children (or rather, not have made the choice to stay home with child).

I can support what Scott says if (and only if) we divide up the composition of
NomCom.  Taken to its extreme, what Scott says might return a NomCom made up
only of people over 65 who have previously served on the IAB/IESG.

But the same applies to SM's draft. Taken to its extreme, SM's draft might
return a NomCom made up only of people who have absolutely no idea how the IETF
functions today, and (more importantly) why.

I think you can rely on each person actually on NomCom to speak their mind and
deliver from their experience (and we can rely on the NomCom chair to tease that
out). So surely we can say something like:
2 old-timers chosen randomly from a list of old-timers
4 people who have been around the IETF a lot (e.g. 3 out of last 5 meetings)
3 people who have worked in the IETF quite a bit (e.g.  front page of > 2 RFCs)
3 people who have evidence of participation in technical work on mailing lists.
Each person is only allowed to be placed in one pool before selection.

I would like to see SM reconsider his Section 2 along these lines (although not
with these precise definitions).

Adrian