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Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-26 13:38:49
Hello,
At 08:32 26-07-2013, John C Klensin wrote:
For this particular meeting all of the following seem relevant
to at least some remote participants:

[snip]

with subscribing to the 87all list.  It should no involve a
treasure hunt at which only very experienced IETF participants
can be expected to succeed.

It would be helpful to new people if everything in the IETF was not a treasure hunt or required an email broadcast for a person to find information.

The consensus of the IETF is that:

  "newcomers who attend Working Group meetings are encouraged to
   observe and absorb whatever material they can, but should not
   interfere with the ongoing process of the group"

It was also mentioned that:

 "Working group meetings are not intended for the education of
  individuals"

The first quote might discourage newcomers from participating. I suggest discussing about the two quotes during the orientation as they could be misunderstood.

Specific suggestions:

(i) Let's get these open Sunday sessions audiocast and/or
available over Meetecho or WebEx.  If that is impossible for
IETF 87, it should be a priority for IETF 88 and later.

Yes.

POSH has not published a session agenda. However, the BoF is listed on the meeting agenda. Is the BoF cancelled or will this be one of those willful violations of IETF Best Current Practices?

Regards,
-sm
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