--On Friday, July 26, 2013 22:48 +0100 Tim Chown
<tjc(_at_)ecs(_dot_)soton(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk> wrote:
...
On a similar note, according to its agenda, the core of the
DNS-SD Extensions BOF (dnssdext) is apparently
draft-lynn-sadnssd-requirements-01. The link from the agenda
page [1] yields a 404 error and attempts to look up either
"draft-lynn-sadnssd-requirements" or the author name "lynn" in
the I-D search engine yield nothing.
Hi John,
Apologies for this. The correct draft name, and the BoF chair
contacts, are now in the agenda file at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/agenda/dnssdext/
Tim,
Many thanks. Let me stress that I didn't set out to attack you
or your BOF. You just lucked out and became the first example
that came in handy. See below.
FWIW, I also note that the posted agenda is heavily dependent
on the Chairs and mentions an "agreed charter".
That means the charter agreed from the bashing of the draft
charter in the previous 40 minutes, not that a charter is
already agreed.
If there is something to be bashed for those 40 minutes, I'd
expect a link to at least a skeleton first draft. I note that
draft charter does have a link from the meeting materials page,
just not from the agenda. But, modulo the comment below, that
is a matter of taste to be working out between you, Ralph, and
the IESG.
I am mentioning this on the IETF list only because it is
another example of the point that I (and probably SM and
others) are trying to make: If we are interested in
newcomers, remote participants without years of IETF
experience, and/or increased diversity, we should not allow
these kinds of issues to become requirements for "treasure
hunts" or other sorts of obstacles in people's paths.
True. Though the chair names are on the posters linked in the
materials page, which I assume is well-advertised to newcomers
as access to slides is rather important.
As far as I know, the only "advertisement" is the link from the
"Agendas and Meeting Materials" section of the main meeting page
and the similar links from the Meetings entry on the IETF home
page. Now I'd personally like to see the "New Attendees"
category on the main meeting page changed to "New Attendees and
Participantes" and then including a link to a page that would
give hints about where these things are and how to navigate
around them. But that fairly clearly won't happen before Sunday
and YMMD.
And also on the BoF wiki, which you should know about.
Yep. I know about it and where to find it. But, as I explained
in my note to Brian, I'm a lot more concerned about newcomers
and remote participants without years or experience than I am
about what I can find if I remember all of the reasonable places
where I might look.
...
Best wishes for a successful BOF.
john