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Oh look! [Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials]

2013-07-26 15:39:09
And there is a "Training" section in the meeting materials page.
It's empty... but thanks to somebody for putting it there.
All we need to do is figure out how to pre-load it.

Regards
   Brian

On 27/07/2013 08:33, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 27/07/2013 03:32, John C Klensin wrote:
Hi.

For a newcomer or someone expecting to write I-Ds, some of the
most important sessions at the IETF are the various Sunday
afternoon tutorials and introductions.  Many of them are (or
should be) of as much interest to remote participants as to f2f
attendees.   Until and unless a newcomer's tutorial can be
prepared that is focused on remote participants, even that
session should be of interest.

For this particular meeting all of the following seem relevant
to at least some remote participants:

     Newcomers' Orientation       
     Tools for Creating I-Ds and RFCs         
     IAOC Overview Session     
     Multipath TCP         
     Applying IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) to Network
Measurement and Management

So...

(1) The note below strongly implies that none of those sessions
are being audiocast.    Why not and can that be fixed?

I think that would mean that the crew (partly volunteers) would
need to mobilise 24 hours earlier. Not impossible, I suppose,
but not free of costs either.

(2) There is no hint on the agenda or tools agenda about
availability of presentation and related materials (slides,
etc.) for those sessions.  Do those materials not exist? 

At the moment the various EDU tutorials usually get posted after
the event, and I agree that isn't ideal.

It would be useful for all these ancillary sessions to be included
in the "meeting materials" page and all agenda tools (official and
volunteer). Again, not impossible, in fact very desirable IMHO,
but not free.

    Brian
I
know, but a newcomer or remote participant might not, that I can
find some tutorials by going to the IETF main page and going to
"Tutorial" under "Resources", but I have no idea which of those
links actually reflects what will be presented on Sunday.
Assuming the presentation materials do exist for at least
several of the sessions, finding them is much like the situation
with subscribing to the 87all list.  It should no involve a
treasure hunt at which only very experienced IETF participants
can be expected to succeed.  

Specific suggestions:

(i) Let's get these open Sunday sessions audiocast and/or
available over Meetecho or WebEx.  If that is impossible for
IETF 87, it should be a priority for IETF 88 and later.

(ii) If there are presentation materials available, links from
the tools agenda and an announcement to IETF-Announce as to
where to find them would be desirable.

(iii) If presentation materials are not available, why not?
And, more important, can this be made a requirement for IETF 88
and beyond?

thanks,
    john



--On Friday, July 26, 2013 12:00 +0200 Nick Kukich
<nkukich(_at_)verilan(_dot_)com> wrote:

Greetings,

For those interested in monitoring sessions or participating
remotely the following information may prove useful.
...
All 8 parallel tracks at the IETF 87 meeting will be broadcast
starting with the commencement of working group sessions on
Monday, July 29, 2013 at 0900 CEST (UTC+2) and continue until
the close of sessions on Friday, August 2nd.
...



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