Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Str

On 7/26/13, John C Klensin <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> For a newcomer or someone expecting to write I-Ds, some of the
> most important sessions at the IETF are the various Sunday
> afternoon tutorials and introductions.  Many of them are (or
> should be) of as much interest to remote participants as to f2f
> attendees.   Until and unless a newcomer's tutorial can be
> prepared that is focused on remote participants, even that
> session should be of interest.
>
> For this particular meeting all of the following seem relevant
> to at least some remote participants:
>
>       Newcomers' Orientation
>       Tools for Creating I-Ds and RFCs
>       IAOC Overview Session
>       Multipath TCP
>       Applying IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) to Network
> Measurement and Management
>
> So...
>
> (1) The note below strongly implies that none of those sessions
> are being audiocast.    Why not and can that be fixed?
>
> (2) There is no hint on the agenda or tools agenda about
> availability of presentation and related materials (slides,
> etc.) for those sessions.  Do those materials not exist?  I
> know, but a newcomer or remote participant might not, that I can
> find some tutorials by going to the IETF main page and going to
> "Tutorial" under "Resources", but I have no idea which of those
> links actually reflects what will be presented on Sunday.
> Assuming the presentation materials do exist for at least
> several of the sessions, finding them is much like the situation
> with subscribing to the 87all list.  It should no involve a
> treasure hunt at which only very experienced IETF participants
> can be expected to succeed.
>
> Specific suggestions:
>
> (i) Let's get these open Sunday sessions audiocast and/or
> available over Meetecho or WebEx.  If that is impossible for
> IETF 87, it should be a priority for IETF 88 and later.
+1

> (ii) If there are presentation materials available, links from
> the tools agenda and an announcement to IETF-Announce as to
> where to find them would be desirable.
>
> (iii) If presentation materials are not available, why not?
> And, more important, can this be made a requirement for IETF 88
> and beyond?
>
> thanks,
>     john