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Re: decentralization of Internet (was Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

2013-09-06 21:06:54
    > From: Scott Brim <scott(_dot_)brim(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>

    > LISP does nothing for decentralization. Traffic still flows
    > hierarchically

Umm, no. In fact, one of LISP's architectural scaling issues is that it's
non-hierarchical, so xTRs have neighbour fanouts that are much larger than
typical packet switches. In basic unicast mode, any xTR is always a direct
neighbour to any other xTR; no xTR (in basic unicast mode, at least) ever goes
_through_ another xTR to get to a third xTR. All LISP basic unicast paths
always include exactly two xTRs.

The actual detailed paths do mimic the underlying network, of course: if the
network is hierarchical, the paths will be hierarchical, but if the network
were flat, the paths would be flat. (Or is that what you meant?)

    > you add the mapping system which is naturally hierarchical and another
    > vulnerability.  

No more so than DNS; they are exactly parallel in their functional design.

        Noel

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