Re: [IETF] Re: ORCID - unique identifiers for contributors


On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr(_at_)sandelman(_dot_)ca> 
wrote:


I did not know about ORCID before this thread.
I think it is brilliant, and what I've read about the mandate of
orcid.org, and how it is managed, I am enthusiastic.

I agree with what Joel wrote:

Asking for ORCID support in the tool set and asking for IETF endorsement
are two very different things.


I must admit that I'm still somewhat confused by what exact problem we are 
trying to solve here.

Things that I write in an IETF context are fundamentally different to things 
that I write on other contexts, so I don't really see a need for a *global* 
identifier (If folk think that I wrote a particularly funny anecdote about fish 
they are not likely to be looking for drafts that I have co-authored. Anyway, 
what I author in the IEFT context should reflect WG consensus, so who the 
actual author is is somewhat irrelevant).

So, all I really need is to disambiguate myself in the IETF context.
This seems simple -- when I arrived here, no-one mistook me for some other 
Warren Kumari, so I have stuck with that identifier.
If there was already a Warren Kumari participating I would simply have used my 
middle name (embarrassingly enough, "Kim") and been Warren Kim Kumari.
Had there already been a Warren Kim Kumari, I could refer to myself as Warren 
"Monkey" Kumari, Warren "Ace" Kumari, Warren "Dumbass" Kumari, etc. 

If there were multiple Warren Kumari's participating folk are more likely to 
remember me as "Dumbass Warren" than "that Warren guy with the ORCID 
0000-0002-2404-6244".

If the purpose it to try prevent folk intentionally passing themselves off as 
someone else, well, putting in an ORCID doesn't really accomplish that either.

I guess I see no harm in this, I just don't really get the point. 

W

Having tool support for it is a necessary first step to permitting IETF
contributors to gain experience with it.   We need that experience before we
can talk about consensus.

So, permit ORCID, but not enforce.
An interesting second (or third) conversation might be about how I could
insert ORCIDs into the meta-data for already published documents.

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