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Re: Proper credit for work done -- on finding chairs (was CHANGE THE JOB)

2013-10-17 17:09:01


On 10/17/2013 10:59 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
On Oct 17, 2013, at 23:47, Barry Leiba <barryleiba(_at_)computer(_dot_)org>
wrote:

"If I'm a working group chair, I do more work, overall.  And, in
the end, I get no credit for it -- my name is not on any of the
documents. And, significantly, my company gets no credit for it
whatsoever, not even listed in the datatracker.

This.

(Fortunately for me, in the WGs I have chaired, I actually did
(co-)write some of the documents. But it often was an uphill battle
to get my name on them, because WG chairs are not supposed to do
that.  Even when there are multiple chairs, who could very well watch
each other.  Well, RFC 3095 had both chairs on the document... and 14
more authors.)

Other groups, such as IEEE, list the chairs of a group prominently
(as such); they are worse in identifying the authors though.

Chairs, shepherds, wg secretaries etc etc. I don't think
attribution in RFCs is a great way to do that unless its
done as acks the authors decide themselves they want to
include.

And I also think chairs being authors is a bad plan for
any controlversial wg.

I do agree that some credit for chairs in particular would
be a fine thing if we could figure a way to do it though.

For example, I'd encourage authors to include acks as per
the above, in particular for cases of 'difficult' wgs.

Any other ideas?

S.



Grüße, Carsten