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Re: future of identifiers

2013-11-01 14:48:57
Just a suggestion, but...

it might be a good thing if we were to first identify what needs to be 
identified.

I think RFC 1992's model of an identifier (a string of some kind that 
identifies an application API, and moves with the API) makes a lot of sense. 
Such a thing would, for example, simplify VM motion in data centers. Taking 
that model into information-centric/name-based networking, one could imagine it 
being a string that an application uses to identify itself when it expresses 
interest in a class of data.

If it's something along those lines, I doubt that it's in any character set, 
and by the way, while it might have a current-set-of-ip-addresses, it's not an 
IP address or the EID component of one. I could imagine it being almost 
anything that can be built into a string, and then signed using an 802.1AR 
certificate or one from another source.

I could imagine law enforcement "expressing interest" in an interesting party's 
communications. Or the mafia, or the person's spouse. There might be some 
interesting security angles.

But seriously, I'd suggest we start from first principles before thinking about 
solutions here. What needs to be identified, and what characteristics does it 
have?

On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jari Arkko <jari(_dot_)arkko(_at_)piuha(_dot_)net> 
wrote:

For background, when I visited the ICANN meeting last summer, they were about 
to launch a set of panels to advice themselves about key topics in coming 
years. I promised to join one of them, on identifier technology innovation 
(along with a few other IETFers). The topic for this effort is future 
evolution of DNS and other identifiers, including relevant security and 
management aspects. The viewpoint is primarily to look at this from ICANN’s 
angle, but of course the matter is interesting to us others as well. 

And perhaps we at the IETF should also understand the same things. Hence this 
e-mail.

I have some ideas on what some of these trends might be. But what do the rest 
of you think? Where is identifier technology going, and what new things are 
on the horizon? What do we need to do with IDNs? DNSSEC? What will DANE lead 
to, and how will id-locator split techniques evolve & be deployed? How will 
applications or users think about identifiers in the future?

More information at http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/10/future-identifiers/

Jari


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