While I appreciate the difficult position the chairs are in, I don't
agree with the approach and I believe it is inappropriate for the
working group to make such a decision. Working groups don't vote. Want
to change that process? Better gain IETF consensus first. And I will
argue against any such attempt. There are plenty of other standards
bodies that do vote. Go to one of them if that's what you want.
Eliot
On 11/28/13 2:35 PM, Hervé wrote:
Dave Cridland wrote:
2) If the Working Group does want to mandate a single codec, is there
consensus for one of the alternate decision-making processes described
in RFC 3929? This is our best guess at what to do here; despite it being
a (presumably expired) Experimental track RFC.
RFC 3929 has been mentioned on the rtcweb mailinglist and during the last
meeting.
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/maillist.html
http://ietf88.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recorded_Sessions#RTCWEB_II
If nobody else appeals the decision, then I will - assuming I'm allowed to -
if it gets this far.
it's not clear to me that there is a consensus surrounding the voting
rules - they've certainly yet to be summarised in one place based on the
discussion that has occurred so far.
No decision yet. Per
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg09909.html today
is the last planned day for comment/discussion on the _proposal_ to vote,
before the proposal gets updated. A further call for consensus to use
the proposal would follow after updating.
Perhaps you'd like to get involved now rather than later.
Here's what I sent to someone else regarding the proposed schedule:
Nov 28 last day of comment/discussion period on proposed _voting
process_ http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg09909.html
after Nov 28 WG chairs will update, if necessary, the process proposal
after update normal IETF process to reach consensus about adopting the
(updated) process proposal
+2 weeks last day of the consensus call about adopting the voting
process
IF consensus was reached to use the voting process in those 2 weeks after the
update for that process, ONLY THEN would the (2 week) voting period start (if
that wasn't changed in the update/concensus call).
So the voting process can theoretically _start_ Dec 13 at the earliest, if
accepted. Probably later (if ever), given that updating the proposal is
unlikely to be instantaneous.
I hope that made it clearer. The source for this is the bottom section of
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg09909.html
- Hervé