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Re: Substantial nomcom procedure updates (Was: Re: Consolidating BCP 10 (Operation of the NomCom))

2014-09-16 12:44:19
At 10:36 AM 9/16/2014, Stephen Kent wrote:
I like Dave's suggestion i.e., reduce the per-company NOMcom appointment
limit to 1 from 2.

It's not a perfect solution, but it's clear, simple to implement, and
the intent is obvious.

Steve


As I said, I did take a look at that approach, and it is *better* than the 
current process for some value of *better".  But it still has the 
characteristic that by overloading the volunteer pool, a company can pretty 
much guarantee its representation on the Nomcom.

The formula is basically  "P = 1-(1-n)^10"  where P is the probability of 
having a member and "n" is the proportion the company has of the volunteer 
pool.   E.g. A company with 15% of the volunteer pool has an 80% chance of 
having a member of the nomcom.

Turning the formula around to how many volunteers you need to get a specific 
result, you get "n = 1-ROOT (1-P, 10)"

So to have a 95% chance of having a member, you need about a 26% share of the 
Nomcom volunteer pool.


If you cap the share of the volunteer pool (by doing the two stage selection 
process I mentioned or something similar), you can set the numbers any way you 
want.  For example, if you cap the share at 10%, and you're selecting at max 
one member per company, a company has about a 65% chance of having a member.  
If you use the same 10% cap on the pool, but allow a max of two nomcom members, 
a company has about a 33% chance of no member, 33% chance of 1 and 33% chance 
of two.

I'm not sure what the right numbers are, but I would like to set things up so 
that overloading the nomcom pool is no longer a viable strategy (or at least 
has a lower payoff).

Changing the cap to 1 member will reduce, but not eliminate,  over 
representation of large companies on the Nomcom.  If the change is made, then 
year to year  2-4 companies will provide about 30% (guesstimate based on what I 
remember of past volunteer pools) of the nomcom members; down from what I would 
guess is currently close to 50%.  The question is whether that number is still 
too high or not?

Later, Mike

Note:  This is all binomial distribution probability stuff.  In excel, the 
probability pulling exactly N black balls (nomcom positions) out of Y pulls (10 
nomcom slots) given a P percentage of black balls (nomcom volunteers) in the 
pool is =BINOMDIST (N, Y, P, FALSE).  When you're doing Y pulls, and you cap 
successes at N, then the result is the sum of N to Y of that function (e.g. the 
probability of pulling at least 2 black balls is the sum of the probabilities 
of pulling 2, 3, 4...10 black balls).

I used that to play around with various scenarios.

For instance, assume that 4 companies collectively have a 50% share of the 
volunteer pool and that each individual company is capped at 1 member.  The 
numbers work out to about an 82% chance the companies will share 4 members,  a 
12% chance of 3, 5% of 2 and 1% of 1.  That goes to looking at the nomcom 
representation on a longer term basis than year to year.  If the cap is 2 (as 
it has been in years past), that gives you a 27% chance of 0-3members, a 20% 
chance of 4,  a 25% chance of 5, a 20% chance of 6, 12% chance of 7 and a 5.5% 
chance of 8.  





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