Re: IETF Hackathon at IETF 92, March 21-22, Dallas, TX

Hi Warren,

Fair questions. There are now answers to several of these on the community
page created for the Hackathon.
Please have a look and feel free to post any other questions or thoughts.

Cheers,
Charles

On 2/25/15, 10:05 AM, "Warren Kumari" <warren(_at_)kumari(_dot_)net> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Melinda Shore 
> <melinda(_dot_)shore(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
> wrote:
> > On 2/25/15 8:04 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> > > But the expectation that someone will approach you is kind of absurd.
> > That's nonsense, Ted.  Nobody's saying "You didn't approach *me*".
> > What we're saying is that there are questions about where the list
> > of technologies came from, particularly given that 1) they're for
> > the most part technologies that have not been adopted as IETF
> > deliverables, and 2) they appear more aligned with Cisco's efforts
> > than with anything the IETF is doing.  If Cisco wants to have a
> > Cisco hackathon coinciding with an IETF meeting, awesome, but
> > let's not pretend this is an IETF event.
> >
> > Who's paying for the room, the network, the food, the ... ?
> >
> > I think an *IETF* hackathon is a great idea.  But between the
> > extremely late scheduling and the really weird content, this looks
> > like kind of a mess.  Might have made more sense to wait until
> > summer, give the thing a better chance of success because of
> > better planning.
> Yup - I initially stuck up for the idea, and still think that the
> *idea* is a good one, but I'm becoming worries about the execution.
> The announcement page has a link to a "discussion forum", which
> required me hunting down my cisco.com login.
>
> I was hoping for more details there, but no luck...
>
> I am still glad that someone is organizing this (flawed though it
> might be), but I'd like to understand:
> 1: *who* exactly is organizing this? (Is it Cisco? The IETF? A joint
> thing?)
> 2: If the IETF getting sponsorship for this?
> 3: How are the projects being chosen? And by whom?
> 4: Is this under Note Well? Does Cisco own any IPR generated? Or the
> IETF? or individuals?
> 5: This says it is being done at the Fairmont, and I'm assuming there
> will be a need for network. Have the organizers arranged for this?
> (Hint: I don't think the NOC team has heard anything about this...)
>
> W
>
> > Melinda
>
>
> -- 
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
>   ---maf