On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Randy Bush <randy(_at_)psg(_dot_)com> wrote:
It’s quite possible that the appropriate tradeoff for society
continues to be that as documented in RFC1984, but it should be
recognized as an actual tradeoff and not an an approach without any
impact to lawful enforcement activities (as might be implied from your
comments above.)
sorry, i can't resist
We should not be building surveillance technology into standards. Law
enforcement was not supposed to be easy. Where it is easy, it's called a
police state. -- Jeff Schiller
Randy -
Actually, that is a perfect example of my point - Jeff’s quote (with respect
to not including surveillance technology) actually acknowledges that there
is an impact as a result that choice; i.e. ‘LE not supposed to be easy.’
That’s quite different than some of the assertions on this list implying that
RFC1984 has no impact to LEA activities… If the IETF is going to make
a statement, it should be an intellectually honest one and acknowledge
that there could be an LEA impact, but even so, that outcome is still the
desirable tradeoff in the circumstances.
/John
Disclaimer: my views alone.