Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users

I also wanted to address the question of “outside services”.

There are obviously various different technical arrangements. From one box to 
multiple boxes to clouds, load balancers, front-ends, own and shared networks, 
etc.

But I want to be clear that the IETF services do not run by themselves. There 
are real people and real costs involved in running the services. Arrangements 
differ, some services are run by volunteers (thank you!) and some under 
commercial arrangements that we explicitly contract and pay for. AMS, some data 
centre facilities, Cloudfare, and software developer companies, for instance. 
We have the ability to decide what we want, though obviously within some 
constraints of what is reasonably available and/or at what cost.

I think it is useful to discuss whether our technical arrangements should 
evolve somehow. But I don’t think we can get away from the fact that we’ll be 
using commercial services of one or other kind. I wouldn’t draw the line 
between inside and outside at the CDNs, for instance.

Jari

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