Re: ietf.org end-to-end principle

On 2016-03-17 18:48, joel jaeggli wrote:
> On 3/17/16 2:50 AM, Josh Howlett wrote:
> > > The takeaway for me is that the end-to-end principle is dead. The
> > > times where all intelligence should be in end hosts only, no
> > > middleboxes, and KISS have gone, and techniques going in the
> > > opposite direction are not only in use, but even embraced by IETF
> > > operations.
> > +1
> >
> > But the fact that these solutions exist points to a need unmet by
> > existing e2e approaches. Someone in IETF operations had presumably
> > thought out their requirements when this service was procured.
> > Embedding e2e within a solution that satisfies those same operational
> > requirements sounds like a potential IETF WG charter in the making.
> I'm  not really sure what you folks are talking about anymore. A CDN
> whether internal or a third party is an extension of the applications
> stack, not a bump in the wire.
>
> building scalable performant low latency services is a distributed
> systems problem and there are a number of areas of the ietf activity
> (all of them probably) involved in doing.
very true

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