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Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users

2016-03-16 15:44:02
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 03:22:46PM -0400, Michael StJohns wrote:
And lest anyone think I'm skimming over the whole reason for using
Tor:  One reductio ad absurdum  thing to do  (extreme pain) would be
to require Captcha for *all* accesses to the IETF web pages - e.g.
ignore the evaluation of perceived threat from the querying site and
make all of us share in the pain.  The other one would be to remove
Captcha for all.  I don't think either of these passes the smell
test.

Why not?  I've already pointed out (upthread, with references) that
captchas have no defensive value.  Zero.  None.  They're snake-oil.
Pretending that they will actually stop a modestly-determined,
modestly-resourced attacker is foolish.  *If* there is a need for
defensive measures, and if there is, I'd like to see that need qualified
and quantified, then fine: let's use some of the defensive mechanisms
that have been shown to work *and* which don't impede access by the
impaired/disabled, by Tor users, by those with Javascript turned off,
by those using alternate browsers or command-line programs, etc.

---rsk