And actually, in general, nobody complains that any hosts in IPv4 is not able
to access resources at IPv6 hosts. This is why we have the transition
mechanism, that are being deployed in parallel to the IPv6 deployment.
Nobody is so crazy to just deploy IPv6 and do not provide those transition
mechanisms.
If that happens, clearly is the fault of somebody that doesn’t know how to do
his job. This can happen exactly the same if your protocol becomes approved and
some folks don’t update their hosts or routers to comply with your protocol,
right?
Saludos,
Jordi
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Khaled Omar <eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>
Responder a: <eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>
Fecha: domingo, 16 de abril de 2017, 3:31
Para: "jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es"
<jordi(_dot_)palet(_at_)consulintel(_dot_)es>
CC: "ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
"int-area(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <int-area(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
"intarea-ads(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <intarea-ads(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
"intarea-chairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <intarea-chairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: RE: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
Hi Jordi,
Internet is a global network that covers the whole world (of course it is
known by all), a single host that resides in one region should access resources
everywhere, it will be a shame when this one host can access only resources
from the same IP version that he uses.
It is good that IPv6 is deployed on the most well-known websites (such as
Google, Facebook, etc.) but that doesn't mean that the Internet is only
websites, there are many other resources (services), eventually all must be
assigned an IP address.
The case is to allow IPv4 only hosts to communicate with IPv6 only hosts
(for 6-to-6 and 4-to-4 is not the problem), so deploying a solution for that
division problem should be introduced ASAP or the Internet will have a bad
reputation due to the separation between hosts.
The IETF should take that responsibility over the shoulder, because think
about those with IPv6 only address, they can access only 15% of the Internet,
will they have to wait some other years to be able to access everything on the
Internet, I don't think they should do that.
Anyway, I think the solution is on your hands now, the decision to publish
it is not my responsibility, but I'm sure a solution will be found for this
problem regardless it will be IPv10 or something else.
Best Regards,
Khaled Omar
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of JORDI
PALET MARTINEZ
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 11:21 PM
To: intarea-ads(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; int-area(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; intarea-chairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
Stats are always a reference, but if you look only to a single data set,
you will have a broken view.
Look at the data of the mobile operators in many countries, that only
deliver IPv6 connectivity, such as US, India, few EU countries, now Japan, or
even wireline providers in every continent of the world, that have IPv6
penetration figures much higher than what Google average is showing.
For those that work every day deploying IPv6 since many years ago, we have
seen a trend change, the light at the end of the tunnel, already a few years
ago.
Regards,
Jordi
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Int-area <int-area-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> en nombre de Khaled
Omar <eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com> Responder a:
<eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>
Fecha: sábado, 15 de abril de 2017, 19:52
Para: Christopher Morrow <morrowc(_dot_)lists(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
CC: "intarea-ads(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <intarea-ads(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
"int-area(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <int-area(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
"ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>,
"intarea-chairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <intarea-chairs(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Asunto: Re: [Int-area] Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
Hi Christopher,
>
'what was said earlier' - citation requested.
What I said means that since I wrote the IPv10 I-D on Google blogger, I
wrote that the deployment of IPv6 is about 5% of the Internet traffic, and I
got responses from some IETF members Just claiming that this is a wrong
percentage and
the real exceeds 60% and gave me some examples of mobile providers’
statistics.
So, this Google statistics confirms what I had said earlier because I
got this percent from some online statistics that belongs to the IP address
assignment process.
I would like to thank Google for the efforts made to make this
measurements and provide a respectful and real statistics that describes the
recent situation so we can make decisions based on it.
Best Regards,
Khaled Omar
From: christopher(_dot_)morrow(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com
[mailto:christopher(_dot_)morrow(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:16 PM
To: Khaled Omar
Cc: int-area; intarea-ads; ietf; intarea-chairs
Subject: Re: Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Khaled Omar
<eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
Hi all,
Please check out this link that shows the statistics of the IPv6
adoption over the past 10 years maybe it will make you believe what was said
earlier.
'what was said earlier' - citation requested.
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
Recent IPv6 adoption (April, 2017) is:
14.83% Native - 0.03% 6to4 - 14.87% Total
Best regards,
Khaled Omar
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