Re: maillog error, no such file, procmail verbose=on

At 12:36 2003-07-11 -0600, Eric wrote:
> 2 issues here  one  if I cannot commandline verbose=on then where do I set
> that?
How about as a _parameter_ to the program, rather than the program path 
itself (which is obviously what you redefined in the SENDMAIL mc 
file)?  Nearly always, variable setting is performed within the rcfile in 
any event - overriding such things is useful for manual invocation, when 
the operator is intentionally tweaking variable state, not when it is done 
for all rcfiles/users in the system.
If the rcfile has "verbose" set within it (which UNSETS the variable, but 
which few people are going to do as a matter of course), then the 
commandline-defined verbose will have no effect, except for the verbosity 
up until the variable is unset in the rcfile.
I really doubt you want verbosity set in right from the sendmail invocation 
- procmail will potentially log quite a lot of material to the system log 
if a LOGFILE isn't spefified within the rcfile.  Even if a logfile is 
specified, some logging will be to the syslog, and other logging will be to 
the specified logfile (those events which occur linearly after the LOGFILE 
specification).
Additionally, to disable the VERBOSE setting in the sendmail config, you'd 
have to change the sendmail configuration and RESTART sendmail.  If the 
change is in the /etc/procmailrc file or whatever, simply editing the file 
will apply the change.
If a user has a script that defines logging, they'll end up with verbose 
logging when it isn't the default for procmail (which is certainly your 
peroggative on your own host), but more importantly to them, they'll 
potentially end up with a volume of material in their own defined LOGFILE, 
which could impact their account filesystem quotas.  That's not a nice 
thing to do to someone.
> > >the file does exist.. where is it calling verbose from... if its the
> > >sendmail.cf then its not a procmail question. but I changed that.
> I actually didn't change the cf file.... my bad post... I changed the mc
> (like I should) and remade the cf
Remaking (and copying) the cf doesn't restart sendmail however, which is 
part of the problem you experienced in the first place (when you improperly 
ADDED the parameter as part of the program name), and which caused the 
error to continue even after you corrected the config file.
This tends to be true of ALL server daemons.

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