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Re: Please fix obsolete address in http://www.procmail.org/era/lists.html

2013-06-16 14:45:43
At 07:06 2013-06-16, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> http://mailman.rwth-aachen.de/mailman/listinfo/procmail
>
> which also identifies a list administrator at the bottom of the page.

Yes, Recursive Catch 22, one need to be on list to get that header,
or find an owner address or subscribe mechanism detailed on web,
but http://www.procmail.org/era/lists.html points at wrong address.

Many of the participants on this list have been on it for over a decade (and some have been using procmail for two or more), and thus would likely be fairlt oblivious to changes in how to get onto the list, not needing to do that themselves.

Probably, I tried various addresses, all black holes bar one, but
he/she's bound to be on this list too, & here cc'd 
webmaster(_at_)procmail(_dot_)org.

The official listadmin for the procmail list is a staffer at the Univertify of Aachen, and happens to NOT be a participant on this list. Of course, the official listadmin can't help anyone who isn't mailing the correct list/listadmin address, so they're not necessarily in a position to do much to resolve the problem at hand.

(It's quite possible for a list to operate, yet a sub/unsub mechanism
to be broken, but in this case once postmaster @ Aachen found
right address, I subscribed via sub. mechanism, so that works
too, so it seems to be just http://www.procmail.org needs fixing).

I have sent, under separate cover, correspondance to the two principals of procmail to suggest that the website and procmail manpages perhaps be updated.


Nominally, rather than accepting mail at procmail-request(_at_)informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)de, if the address is in fact defunct, an SMTP access rule can be set up for it (by an aachen mail admin) to bounce incoming messages with a reference to the new mailman interface. No lost souls, no accumulation of messages in a box nobody has time to monitor.

Postmaster @ Aachen is a she,  I got the impression from her that
http://www.procmail.org pages were not her area.

The procmail website is wholly separate from the Aachen mailserver which graciously hosts the discussion list. Note that the postmaster at Aachen isn't necessarily a mailman admin either.

Please correct
        procmail-request(_at_)informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)de
in
        http://www.procmail.org/era/lists.html

FTR, the procmail _users_list_ does not manage the procmail website.

Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com
 Reply below not above, like a play script.  Indent old text with "> ".
 Send plain text.  No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative.

Dang, I cut my reply to context and intermixed my responses.

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 Sean B. Straw / Professional Software Engineering

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