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Re: SPF and SMTP 551/251 result codes.

2004-03-27 08:00:51

On Mar 27, 2004, at 5:29 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:

On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 17:24 -0500, Theo Schlossnagle wrote:
If a forwarder chooses to forward mail to roleaccount(_at_)whitehouse(_dot_)gov, it
will come from that machine.  If a forwarder decided it didn't like a
bulk mailer (legit or not) it could just start returning 551 try
<roleaccount(_at_)whitehouse(_dot_)gov> and then the bulk mailer is going to
effectivelty attach the whitehouse.gov mail systems.

Perhaps. So a bulk mailer might choose not to implement this for the
mail which is part of a bulk mailing. For normal mail it really doesn't
cause that much of a problem.

Suppose the following:
pobox.com receives some substantial amount of mail per day from around the Internet. pobox.com gets hacked and the hacker starts to send back "551 try <victim(_at_)victimdomain(_dot_)com> directly"
  People "trust" pobox.com and suddenly starts abusing the victim.

The problem with this scenario is that is provides a framework for a DDoS instead of a controlled DoS from pobox.com directly.

If pobox.com were hacked and started attacking the victim, it is a simple problem to solve. If pobox.com can instead have sites all around the work start attacking the victim we have a much bigger mess.

// Theo Schlossnagle
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