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Jim Lyon's proposed possible extensions

2004-06-18 16:37:34
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Jim Lyon's got a new proposal out on IETF-MARID. If I understand correctly, 
the chair has proposed that we settle the XML debate once and for all by 
allowing people to propose difficult yet possible future extensions. Once 
they all get posted, then the anti-XML people will propose how SPF syntax 
can be extended to include that.

What I see so far is that their proposals are all way beyond the scope of 
what SPF is trying to address: authentication. 

Jim Lyon's recent proposal tries to transfer reputation or accreditation 
from one person to another. For instance, he thinks that if abc.com sends 
mail through hotmail.com, the owners of abc.com may or may not want that 
mail to have the same rep/accred as hotmail.com. This is nonsense because 
you can't transfer accred or rep based on how the email got there. The only 
question is: Did this mail really come from abc.com or did hotmail.com just 
make it up?

We can't allow extensibility into SPF or SenderID. The problem set is small, 
and must remain small.  As long as we keep the problem scope small and 
well-defined, we will be able to create implementations and languages that 
are compact and easily understood and managed. The chance of having every 
implementation functioning 100% exactly the same is much greater if the 
number of "features" is very small. If someone sees a problem that is 
similar to SPF but not in the realm of SPF, let's push back and say, "Come 
up with your own solution, but leave us out of it."

We can win the XML argument if we stick with authentication, authentication, 
authentication, and don't allow anything else. I can see their arguments 
falling apart as we approach detailed specifics.

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Jonathan M. Gardner
Mass Mail Systems Developer, Amazon.com
jonagard(_at_)amazon(_dot_)com
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