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Re: Re: To all SPF-ians: Time for Chocolate

2004-07-12 21:27:26
In <004801c4687e$6ad3f420$6c62fea9(_at_)ibmrkydk2ufvdd> "John Glube" 
<jbglube(_at_)sympatico(_dot_)ca> writes:

Earlier today, MS published two documents:

Yes, Meng mentioned that MS would publish those documents today.  If I
understand things correctly, Meng received copies to review last
Thursday, but the MARID designers' meeting didn't happen until Friday,
when several things that deal with SenderID changed.

This again shows how "slow" MicroSoft has(?) to be.  They can't even
update their website without a several day of advanced planning.
Doing something like getting licensing issues resolved with their
lawyers is going to take time.  I just hope it doesn't take too much
time.

Sender ID - executive summary.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/0/4/c0412bf5-86f9-42fa-9f67-59a166c13a77/senderid_exec.pdf

(See points 3, 4 and 5 on page 2. I am not
clear on the perspective behind Point 3.)

There are two point 3's on page 2, but I'm guess you are referring to
the second one about "fairness".  My understanding of the issue is
that, right now, people can send email with almost no cost, it is the
receivers that have to deal with all the costs associated with
fighting spam.  

Requiring senders to bear the costs of creating and maintain SPF
records and handling DNS queries is only fair.  In addition requiring
mailing lists, email forwarders and greeting card sites to change
their software to not spoof other people's domains is also a
reasonable requested.  


Sender ID - deployment overview

http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/e/d/9ed3b337-7a53-4fd8-bd3e-6c483a2b669a/senderid_deploy.pdf

(See in particular point 3 on pages 2 and 3. Does
this make the existing SPF records problematic?)

Yes, until last Friday's meeting, MS still wanted the SenderID records
(really SPF records) to be published under the _ep. subdomain.  This
has been fixed in the drafts that Mark mentioned at the start of this
thread.

MicroSoft will need to update these documents to reflect the current
status of the SenderID proposal.  How long it will take them to do
this is anyone's guess.




-wayne