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Re: SPF-compliant phishing?

2004-09-16 10:16:24
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 03:10:51PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote:
| This gigantic loophole can be closed by using an adjunct protocol along with
| SPF that does end-to-end validation of forwards.  SES is one such protocol.
| The combination of SPF + SES gives you what SPF was designed for in the
| first place:  confidence in the authenticity of the domain in the
| return-path and immunity from joe-jobs.

I agree that SPF and SES work very well together, and
there's no need to go over the reasons: we've heard them
eloquently argued before.

The only reason I don't think it's advisable to go with an
SES-only recommendation is this:

Because SES depends on a callback verification, it would be
trivial to trigger a DDOS by forging mail from an SES domain
to 100,000 receiving MTAs.  Under SPF, those receiving MTAs
launch a bunch of DNS queries.  Under SES, those receiving
MTAs start a bunch of SMTP sessions.  DNS can support
100,000 queries a lot better than SMTP can.

Therefore the combination of SPF and SES is still needed.


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