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RE: [SPFTAG] - RE: No use of checking RFC2822 headers - Sender is probably forged (SPF Softfail)

2004-09-29 06:08:37
I think this whole discussion is for nothing.
Considering that rarely people put their address as pretty name you can
allready prefilter emails as spam which have a valid email address as
pretty name.
Maybe you can even consider to mark everything as SPAM which has an @ in
the pretty name.
Or you compare pretty name with addresss when pretty name is a valid
email address.

It think this pretty name discussion should be placed somewhere in a
SPAM Filter forum
and not in a SenderID Forum.

Kind Regards
Stefan Engelbert 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com 
[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Kitterman
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 3:00 PM
To: spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
Subject: [SPFTAG] - RE: [spf-discuss] No use of checking 
RFC2822 headers - Sender is probably forged (SPF Softfail)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com 
[mailto:owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com]On Behalf Of 
Michel Py
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:50 AM
To: spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com
Subject: RE: [spf-discuss] No use of checking RFC2822 headers


Carl Hutzler wrote:
The latter address is the email address which is 
cdhutzler(_at_)aol(_dot_)com(_dot_) 
Carl Hutzler is the display name or pretty name. We do 
not display 
the pretty name in our AOL clients. Never have.

This is very good and we all thank you, but I'm afraid that the 
outlook of the Outlook situation (pun intended) is bleak. The very 
reason Outlook displays the pretty name is customer request, and 
delivering to the customers what they want (no matter it's 
a good or 
bad idea) is what made M$ successful.

I don't see a solution to it as of now, since millions 
would tell you 
that it's a feature they want not a bug.

Michel.


I don't know about Outlook Express (don't use it), but in 
Outlook 2000 what happens is you see only the pretty name in 
the message list, but when you open the message, you see 
both.  Also, it will display Sender too, so your e-mail to 
the list is displayed as:

message list:

From
Michel Py

Preview pane:

From: owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com

Opened message:

owner-spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com; on behalf of; Michel Py 
[michel(_at_)arneill-py(_dot_)sacramento(_dot_)ca(_dot_)us]

In terms of the 2822 identities, I don't think that's to bad. 
 I don't know what newer versions do (won't be finding out 
either because of product activation).

Scott Kitterman



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