Re: Re: When did we lose control?

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 10:46, Theo Schlossnagle wrote:
> David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> > This is a really key point.
> >
> > Most of the early implementors are going to be open-source software authors. 
> > Many of those people are on this list.  Without the cooperation of these
> > innovators, things aren't going to get very far.  I think it's misguided of
> > Meng to dismiss these vital individuals in favor of a private group.
> >
> > Microsoft is a follower in this area, not a leader; their email servers tend
> > to be a step or two behind the state of the art, and I doubt they have any
> > running SPF checking code yet.
> >  
> Don't forget that Microsoft makes more than an MTA.  They also own and 
> operate MSN, webtv and Hotmail.  To my knowledge, they will support 
> inbound SenderID checking immenently on those services.
>
> Don't confuse Microsoft's product line with their ability and propensity 
> to influence the industry, they are not the same thing at all.
Lets not forget their control over monies flowing into the hands of
certain legal parties... *cough* pro SCO *cough*.  

Microsoft is just simply not worth dealing with here.   Colourful
language and insults aside, its so clear.  Am I the ONLY one here who
just doesn't give a flying !_(_at_)#($ what they think?  Who cares.  They
write the worlds most deployed, and most exploited software, operating
by generally the worlds least educated computer users and are the reason
for many of the attacks and problems on the Internet.  

They have a stringent history of Antitrust violations, lying, breaking
one law and standard after another.  Anyone remember when Win2k was
released?  Anyone have a copy of the 'A' root server's utilization? 
Yeah, lets sell everyone a product that statically checks the first
hostname in the resolver list only falling back upon failure.  So
great!  I would LOVE to work with such amazing developers with insight
that warrants unprecedented levels of acknowledgement for all the GREAT
things they have done and all the wonderful hoards of money they have
accumulated.

Why the hell are we even considering talking with them further.  Its
quite clear that their goal is.  To assimilate and to move on.  Of
course they are going to SAY what you want to hear.  Come on look at my
left hand, come on , look at my left hand, no no don't look at my right,
come on good boy, look at my left hand!

Cheers,

James

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James Couzens,
Programmer
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