Re: Regain control - *was* - When did we lose control?

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 12:21, jpinkerton wrote:
> Well -- it's nice to see that James has managed to overcome his natural
> shyness ;-)
Whats a day on the Internet without a little trolling hrm?

> It's perhaps a good time for us to start a move towards a slight
> "formalisation" of the spf community.
I agree.

> I propose that we elect three co-chairs for the spf working group and three
> mail-list managers for new spf mail-lists which will see the project move
> forwards.
>
> These are *not* to be the same people, so six people will be involved.  I
> chose three on each to ensure a decision at all times ;-)
>
> I propose that the co-chairs should include at least one person who has
> extensive experience in commerce and internet politics.
>
> Once this initial step is taken, we can discuss the possibilities of having
> a technical management team to ensure the best is included from the various
> technical proposals,  and getting a small PR team together. That will
> involve a further 6 people at a minimum.
>
> I suggest we have a one week period for nominations for the posts, and a two
> week period for voting.  All nominations and voting will be private during
> these periods, but will become public when the count is done and results
> published. I am happy to administer this process, unless someone has any
> better suggestions.
>
> I further suggest that there is a one week period to discuss this proposal
> before it is implemented (or not).
Mmmmmmm far too complicated I think.  Politics are a waste of time.  We
got lots of work done between myself, Meng, Wayne, (Andy was there too
as well as later on Koen, Connor and others (sorry if I forgot I don't
know all the aliases and their real names nor can I even remember fully
all of the aliases present all the time) on IRC and basically filtered
what was being said on the list into the channel and discussed it.  It
worked exceptionally actually.  This was of course because Meng was able
to lead back then.  There were some heated discussions but nothing ever
got personal until later on when certain parties decided to exercise
their god given right to be asshats, and this was well into the
Microsoft Debacle round II.

No leader is no good.  We need someone unbiased and technically
competent enough to know when its time to put the foot down, and can
make a decision when under fire. Meng flip flopped a bit but on the
whole I thought he did a great job up until the MS crap.

I most certainly do not wish to do such a thing, nor do I have the time
to, and furthermore I derive far too much pleasure from being
politically incorrect.  I will happily aide in any way that I can
something that in no way involves Microsoft.

BEFORE ANY OF THIS CAN HAPPEN MENG NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION.

1) SenderID needs to die, we want our half of the name back.
2) Subsequent to this, they need to leave our records alone

Why do I get the feeling both of those are a "when hell freezes over
even tho we wrote this" type of thing?

Honestly Meng is the only one who can do these things I believe, and to
do so would restore any lost faith I think anyone here might have.

Cheers,

James

-- 
James Couzens,
Programmer
                        ^                            ( ( (      
      ((__))         __\|/__        __|+|__        '. ___ .'    
       (00)           (o o)          (0~0)        '  (> <) '    
---nn-(o__o)-nn---ooO--(_)--Ooo--ooO--(_)--Ooo---ooO--(_)--Ooo---
http://libspf.org -- ANSI C Sender Policy Framework library
http://libsrs.org -- ANSI C Sender Rewriting Scheme library
-----------------------------------------------------------------
PGP: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x7A7C7DCF

-------
Sender Policy Framework: http://spf.pobox.com/
Archives at http://archives.listbox.com/spf-discuss/current/
http://www.InboxEvent.com/?s=d --- Inbox Event Nov 17-19 in Atlanta features 
SPF and Sender ID.
To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your 
subscription, 
please go to 
http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com

signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part